“it’s not they’re desiring something bad; they desire what they take to be good, even though in actual fact it’s bad” Socrates is after the definitive characteristics of bad as it relates to being good. Lack of awareness is bad habit as expressed by Socrates' conviction that bad can just come from not recognizing what the correct thing would have been; the choice that drove a man to pick the wrong over the right activity more likely than not been under the wrong suspicion that the bad was really the best thing to do. In the event that a man knows the great, he or she can't act generally than this since he or she realizes that in the long run, picking the "bad" will prompt despondency in his or her life which is, as seen above, attractive to …show more content…
However, our customary thinking rightly expects more from such individuals than insignificant great expectations, since for example reckless individuals can be good natured yet may be blameworthy of carelessness of the most noticeably bad sort. If excellence is to acquire good things justly, and if justice is a kind of excellence, Meno has simply repeated his previous mistake of using kinds of excellence to define excellence itself. Socrates' clarification sets up that when he and Meno talk about people seeking bad things, they mean individuals who desire to get bad things. In this manner Socrates can ask Meno once more, in this more exact way, whether individuals can desire to get bad things in instances of both obliviousness and learning. To this more exact inquiry, Meno emphasizes that both cases are conceivable “There are some who desire to get bad things thinking that bad things are beneficial, and others as well, who desire to get bad things knowing that bad things cause harm.”(77d) Socrates continues to contend that both cases – lack of awareness and learning –are