Preview

Were The Melians Resisting Athens Right To Fight?

Good Essays
Open Document
Open Document
688 Words
Grammar
Grammar
Plagiarism
Plagiarism
Writing
Writing
Score
Score
Were The Melians Resisting Athens Right To Fight?
In Athens’ quest for a great empire, they planned to dominate their lesser foes, add to their empire, and show their strength; these pursuits brought them to the city of Melos. Melos was a small island in the Aegean Sea and a colony of Sparta, but they where a neutral state; they were not allied with either side. They had not been involved in the Peloponnesian war as of yet, and did not plan on getting involved. Then, Athens came, demanding surrender and tribute, but Melos chose to resist, rather than submit. Athens believed that because they had might on their side, that they also had the right to conquer weaker city-states (“The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must”). The Melians were right to resist Athens because if …show more content…
When Athens voyaged to Melos, they made no effort to hide their purpose; they were there to conquer Melos, and they expected complete surrender. With a large fleet of the Athenian navy surrounding their city, Melos knew that if they surrendered a life of slavery and dishonor was ahead of them. “To the fairness of quietly instructing each other as you propose there is nothing to object; but your military preparations are too far advanced to agree with what you say, as we see you are come to be judges in your own cause, and that all we can reasonably expect from this negotiation is war, if we prove to have right on our side and refuse to submit, and in the contrary case, slavery.” Enslavement to Athens would not just affect the present Melians it would affect generation after generation, their people could be under Athenian rule for hundreds of years. Melos had been an independent state for over seven hundred years they were not going to give up that freedom without a fight. “Our resolution, Athenians, is the same as it was at first. We will not in a moment deprive of freedom a city that has been inhabited these seven hundred years.” Melos made the right decision in resisting Athens, to resist Athens, was to resist the bonds of …show more content…
Melos knew there would be a fight if they resisted, but they had no way of knowing the terrible outcome of their resistance. So, they held hope that they might somehow win. “…We put our trust in the fortune by which the gods have preserved it until now, and in the help of men, that is, of the Lacedaemonians; and so we will try and save ourselves.” Melos was aware of Athens mighty fleet surrounding their shores, but they also had allies close by, and they held hope that they would come to their aid. They also tried to make peace with Athens to avoid war and hostility; they did everything in their power to protect their people. “But we know that the fortune of war is sometimes more impartial than the disproportion of numbers might lead one to suppose; to submit is to give ourselves over to despair, while action still preserves for us a hope that we may stand erect.” Melos was right to fight because they still might have had a chance for

You May Also Find These Documents Helpful

  • Good Essays

    Impractical power negotiation the Melian Dialogue between Athenian Empire and ppl from isle of Melos…

    • 381 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    The Athenians had requested aid from Sparta which they agreed, but unfortunately were not able to due to a religious festival. The Athenians marched out to Marathon and camped beyond the foothills providing a defence force against the Persians cavalry attacks. With the knowledge of the Spartans soon arrival, the Persians devised a plan to journey around the lands to attack the city of Athens directly. This had open up an opportunity for Miltiades to defeat the Persians whilst their cavalry men were absent from the beach. Therefore he had ordered for attack after the cavalry men had a boarded the ships.…

    • 399 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    In ancient Greece era (ca 800-323 BCE), Greece was consisted of hundred of city states called “Poleis”. Each polis was an independent small country and many were only like a small town or a small village. A polis sometimes controlled very small territories. However, among all of the “Polies” in Greece, there were two poweful city states named Athens and Sparta. These two city states were powerful and influential among other Greek city states or poleis1.…

    • 1661 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Satisfactory Essays

    A few things I feel Athens should of done to ether last longer or win the war would be manipulate and cause rebellions. Sparta constantly feared leaving their home land unguarded. They always fear the slaves on the plantations would rise up like they did in the past. The fear was well placed due to the size of the slave population and the fact their food came from slaves. Now why couldn't Athens use these slaves to their advantage? All they needed to do was send a spy to the slaves, convince them to rise up, start a rebellion to stop the flow of food to Sparta and many other things. If they did that then Athens would of increased there numbers. Maybe give the slaves some armor and weapons to kill off a few Spartans, then jump in and flank them…

    • 181 Words
    • 1 Page
    Satisfactory Essays
  • Powerful Essays

    The Conflict among the Greeks and the Persians all began when Athens and Eretria made the fatal mistake of embroiling themselves in the ‘Ionian Revolt’. Consequently, the help given by the Athenians to the Ionians, according to Pamela Bradley – “drew upon them the vengeance of Darius, who now set in motion his first expedition against Greece”. This first expedition was to be known as the Battle of Marathon in 490 B.C. According to the Modern Historians Bengtson and Paul K. Davis, a Persian force of 20,000 led by the tyrant Hippias, landed at the Bay of Marathon, about 25.5 miles from Athens. A council was held in Athens to decide whether to march out and meet the Persians, or stay and defend the city. Miltiades, one of the ten Generals, persuaded the Athenians to ‘take food and March’. Miltiades, who had inside knowledge of Persian warfare, played a crucial role in the outcome of the Battle of Marathon in that it was his initiative that produced the success of the Greeks. “Miltiades’ words prevailed, and by the vote of Callimachus (the polemarch, or commander in chief)…the decision to fight was made” – Herodotus. In response, the Athenians marched out from Athens with a force of approximately 11,000 Greek hoplites (10,000 Athenian and 1,000 Plataean) to meet the…

    • 2837 Words
    • 12 Pages
    Powerful Essays
  • Satisfactory Essays

    Why Greece Fell Essay

    • 335 Words
    • 2 Pages

    Demosthenes asked for a military mobilization against the Macedonians, but every attempt of the Athens was not successful because they did not have enough strong troops and money to support the war. He also had false and decisive speeches to wrongfully instruct the Athenians, for example, it is as below:…

    • 335 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Satisfactory Essays
  • Good Essays

    He proclaims, “In proof of this it may be noticed that the Lacedaemonians do not invade our country alone, but bring with them all their confederates.” (DWP, p. 58). But we see stark contrast to Pericles speech when the army of Athens arrives at Melians shores and orders them to surrender to Athens although Melians wanted to remain neutral and join neither the Spartans nor the Athenians. But the Athenian army simply dismisses the Melians request to remain independent and neutral and instead forcefully drives them out of their territory. This egotistical act of Athenians towards Melians obliterates Pericles claims of liberality. And even further the main argument that Athenians use in conquering Melians is in irony with Pericles speech which reads as such, “ And it is not as if we were the first to make this law, or to act upon it when made: we found it existing before us, and shall leave it to exist for ever after us; all we do is to make use of it, knowing that you and everybody else, having the same power as we have, would do the same as we do….” (DWP, p. 62). If Athens and Athenians were in fact just and fair, as Pericles claims then the latter part of the argument where they say, “and shall leave it to exist for ever after us” (DWP, p. 62) should have been done away with.…

    • 1024 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    Another reason why Athens were failing miserably against the Spartans was because of a plague that broke out during the war. “During the whole time that the Peloponnesians were in Attica and the Athenians on the expedition in their ships, men kept dying of the plague both in the armament and in Athens” (Book 2, Chap 8, Paragraph 9) As if it could get any worse, Athens thought it was a great idea to try to conquer Sicily while they were fighting Sparta. “The same winter the Athenians resolved to sail again to Sicily, with a greater armament than that under Laches and Eurymedon, and, if possible, to conquer the island; most of them being ignorant of its size and of the number of its inhabitants, Hellenic and barbarian, and of the fact that they were undertaking a war not much inferior to that against the Peloponnesians.” (Book 6,Chap 28, Paragraph…

    • 813 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    Athens Vs Sparta Essay

    • 679 Words
    • 3 Pages

    In conclusion, Greece’s life was impacted by an intense fight between the two city-states, leaving a big mark in history. All just because of Athens and Sparta’s different ways of teaching, forms of government, and the treatment of women, can affect Greece entirely. Wow! It’s surprising that jealousy can rise up between two city-states, and start a huge battle. Although, was it really worth it? This war only led to having them more open to attack to other cities, and lots of citizens ended up dying or being severely injured. The city-states lost everything, and was almost completely wiped off the…

    • 679 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    P.51), by the year of 457 had encircled the city center with a massive stone wall and fortified a broad corridor with a wall on both sides leading all the way to the main harbor at Piraeus (1.107.1. P.57-58). “… Athens was now fortified sufficiently to protect its inhabitants …” (1.91.4. P. 50). Athenian fleet, built against “the prospect of the barbarian invasion” (1.14.3. P.12), and the city fortifications – made it unconquerable to direct attack. This concept laid the basis for the Athenian strategy – defense at land and offense at sea. In the light of the preparation to the war the Athenian general Pericles “gave the citizens some advice on their present affairs… They were not to go out to battle, but to come into the city and guard it, and get ready their fleet, in which their real strength lay.” (2.13.2. P.98). Protected from the land attacks by long walls down to Piraeus, Athens would behave like an island. It would avoid any direct land confrontations with Spartans at any price while its fast and mobile navy would attack Spartans at sea. To protect the population of Attica, Pericles commanded to move more than one hundred thousand people from Attica to Athens and bring them inside the city walls. As long as Athenian navy would stay supreme, Athenians could survive any siege, by resupplying from the allies of the empire. The technology of military siege machines in this period was not developed enough to break such walls easily. Consequently, regardless of what harm was done to the agricultural lands of Attica during the war, the Athenians could rely on sea power and import food by ship through their fortified port. They had huge financial resources collected from their silver mines and from the dues of the Delian League (1.99. P.53). The…

    • 814 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    As I read both exports of Thucydides and Herodotus they go back and forth with the question that was given for the assignment, is war good or bad. When I first thought on the topic I was leaning more to the good side, but I re-read my notes and both exports and realized that war is actually bad. Not only for the two nations that are fighting but for all nations, and cities neighboring those two. It's bad because it makes rulers and other high ranks do things that are unpredictable. Both of these historians told us that when it came to war all the rulers wanted the biggest army and to either kill off or enslave the other nation.…

    • 1223 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Powerful Essays

    The Battle of Thermopylae

    • 1396 Words
    • 6 Pages

    The beginning of the war between the Persians and Greeks dates back nearly 15 years beforehand in 494 BC, at the Ionian revolt. During this time and age, the Persian Empire is a huge world power and have conquered a majority of the ancient world. Ionia is a small area of land off the coast of present day Turkey, near Greece. It had already been conquered by the Persian Empire, and was populated by Greeks. The Ionians revolted against the Persian rule and called for assistance from Greece. Out of the many polis’ in Greece, Athens was the only one to step in to aid them. They fought valiantly, but their revolt was quickly crushed to discourage any more rebellions. To even further discourage the people under their rule from revolting, King Darius of Persia decided to destroy the city of Athens as well, in order to teach everyone else a lesson not to oppose the great Persian Empire. In 490 BC, he sent 20,000 men across the sea to Greece, and they land in the city of Marathon. Persia demanded Greece to surrender but they would agree to their terms. The message the Greeks sent to the invading Persians stated, “We know you are a…

    • 1396 Words
    • 6 Pages
    Powerful Essays
  • Good Essays

    The Athenians treated Melos much like the Achaeans of Trojan Women treat Illium; the city was destroyed, all the men killed, and all the women taken as slaves. The parallel is obvious once history is imposed upon the play. Furthermore, the themes, characters, and very dialogue of the play are thus given new meaning. In presenting Odysseus, a great chief of the Achaeans and reputedly the most intelligent of them, as a coward and murder, Euripides is commenting on the leaders of Athens and on wartime leaders in general. In regards to another theme, Trojan Women (TW) and Iphegenia at Aulis (IA) together present an argument of the nature of war itself. In TW Helen is effectively put on trial by Hecuba and Menelaus. The dialogue there can be taken as indicting war and describing that war is a thing which feeds on itself. In IA, the same argument is presented in different way. The wavering opinion of the army, its supposed war lust and desire to go home, combined with the sudden reversal of mind that Iphegenia undergoes seem to say that war is madness, and that the madness is contagious and self renewing. A quick perusal of the timeline of the Peloponnesian war through which Euripides lived shows that his assertions are true. Euripides, taken in historical context, is not limited, but rather illuminated and by doing so we can make sense some of the affects of war just as he…

    • 650 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    Athenians and Corinthians

    • 632 Words
    • 3 Pages

    I was required to read two texts: One was of a Corinthian speaking about the Athenians to the Spartans; the other was a speech of the Athenians describing themselves to the Spartans. Let’s begin with the first text. The Corinthian that described the Athenians had a strong favor for them over the Spartans. My understanding of this text is that the speaker didn’t care much for the Spartan culture. He claimed, “The Athenians are innovators, quick to make plans and quick to put what they have planned into execution. You [Spartans], by contrast, like to keep what you already have; you never devise anything new, and when you do take action it stops short even of its most essential objectives {A Corinthian}.” This quote really stuck out to me, and the reason for that is due to the stark opinion that this Corinthian had on the Spartans. He held nothing back. He said it how he thought, and didn’t care about any backlash that the Spartans would have. At least according to this speaking Corinthian, the Athenians had so much success because they took action and weren’t afraid to fail. They were confident people who took what they wanted and didn’t care how they did it as long as they got what they wanted and achieved their goal. The Athenians viewed themselves as unique, different than any other nation. According to this Corinthian, the Spartans were polar opposites of the Athenians. He said, “Your way {the Spartans}, on the other hand, is to do less than you could have done, to mistrust your own judgment even on matters of certainty…{A Corinthian}” So, you see, according to this speaking Corinthian, the Spartans were lacking confidence to truly succeed. They didn’t have the mindset that the Athenians had. And that is ultimately what allowed the Athenians to succeed. This perspective may be true, but let’s take a close at what the Athenians describe themselves as to the Spartans.…

    • 632 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    Melian Dialogue

    • 828 Words
    • 4 Pages

    The Melian Dialogue, written by Thucydides, is an account of the confrontation between the people of Melos and the people of Athens. Melos was a small island off the southeastern coast of Greece that tried to remain independent and neutral during the Peloponnesian War. The Athenians wanted to gain control of Melos in order to intimidate the Spartans. The theme of freedom vs. survival is evident throughout this dialogue, as the Melians do not want to succumb their freedom to the Athenians, whatever the price. The Athenians doggedly try to convince the Melians that they will not be able to survive on their own, but the Melians refuse their offer. Their steadfastedness is characteristic of a phenomenon seen throughout history. When people posses enough hope and courage, they are inspired to fight for their freedom, even when their survival is not guaranteed.…

    • 828 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Good Essays