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September-17-2008
Thucydides as historian and theorist
 Athens and Sparta were the superpower of Greece
 Athens and Sparta led victory for Greece against Persian
 Athens are sea power and Sparta is on land
 After that Athens began to take power/empire over Greece
 He didn’t record exactly what happened but recreated them - moments
 He included his large/general judgements about human nature
 About human nature
 Democracy as a form of political regime
 Theorist who educates our judgement on political questions ie justice
 Did not imagine any utopian politics
 Views politics to critically be evaluated
 What significance does Thucydides have in theoretical level?
 His purpose is to be useful to explain human nature in politics
 Diagnosis of civil war
 Saw world has suffering and filled with injustices (political diseases)
 He believes that they used to make their stories
 Distinguishes useful knowledge is different then pleasurable stories
 They aren’t suspicious
 Also distinguishes himself from the truth but his is the alternative truth for his reader
 Offers a philosophical approach as human nature is unchanging and is extra historical
 Can only be appreciated by the way it behaves in history
 History is the way to understand human nature
 Why did he turn to history and not poetry?? Medical science?
 Error that the Athenians made in the past because they fail to see the tyranny of their ancestor
 Ignorance of their own pasts
 Their democrats was founded on a mistake
 Misunderstanding past… Athenians robbed some knowledge that would have helped them
 When planning against Cicily in military world
 For Thucydides for we are conditioned by the past
 Understanding our past can be a preconditioned for political improvement
 Asks whether forgetful of past a defining characteristic of democracy
 Wondering whether Athenians understand past and undrstand where they came
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