Menos suggested that there are different values for men, women, children and so on. While Socrates wanted to find a common quality, that shows the differences in the virtues. Both Socrates and Menos were able to list virtues, but couldn't find a common virtue, until Menos suggested that all men (and women, and children...etc.) have a desire towards "good things." (In the moral sense.) Socrates argued that no man knowingly desires "evil things." (In the moral sense.) So that the desire for "good" is common in everyone. Menos mentions that good things must be obtained in a good way. (Ex. If wealth is obtained in a just way=hard work) But Socrates again argues that "Virtue must be obtained in a virtuous way," creating a circular argument. Menos, at the point of giving up tells him, (using an epistemological (a branch of philosophy that asks, "How do we know what we know?") problem) "But Socrates, how do you know what you are looking for, when you don't even know what you are looking for, is? And when you find what you want, how will you know that this is what you were looking for? (What you did not know, is)" (Simply, if you don't know exactly what you're looking for, how will you know when you've found
Menos suggested that there are different values for men, women, children and so on. While Socrates wanted to find a common quality, that shows the differences in the virtues. Both Socrates and Menos were able to list virtues, but couldn't find a common virtue, until Menos suggested that all men (and women, and children...etc.) have a desire towards "good things." (In the moral sense.) Socrates argued that no man knowingly desires "evil things." (In the moral sense.) So that the desire for "good" is common in everyone. Menos mentions that good things must be obtained in a good way. (Ex. If wealth is obtained in a just way=hard work) But Socrates again argues that "Virtue must be obtained in a virtuous way," creating a circular argument. Menos, at the point of giving up tells him, (using an epistemological (a branch of philosophy that asks, "How do we know what we know?") problem) "But Socrates, how do you know what you are looking for, when you don't even know what you are looking for, is? And when you find what you want, how will you know that this is what you were looking for? (What you did not know, is)" (Simply, if you don't know exactly what you're looking for, how will you know when you've found