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One of the replies which for me exemplifies one of the concerns is when it states that “I'm a finite thing and that compression put some limits on god, god is infinite thus I cannot comprehend god, however this does not precent me from perceiving god” this was the reply from the 5th objection which states that If I have an idea of god I should be able to comprehend it. Also in the fourth set of objection which said that god does not need a cause and therefore god is not the case of oneself. Descartes replies to this by saying that by using the word cause he was merely making an analogy between and effect and its cause.

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